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Ahh, the cloud. Such a great idea.


Less than six months ago, some internal (non-confidential, non-critical, but, none the less, internal) documents of a client of mine showed up on Google. The reason? They were public files in a folder on the webserver, and someone turned on Indexes in Apache. It is the exact same problem.

Not even the shadow of a cloud (pun intended) was involved.


I just had google index my ajax directory. I have a directory where I keep ajax files. The only link to them is through my javascript ajax calls.

I was pretty surprised that Google goes through your javascript, harvesting your ajax links.


Well, you linked to them via JavaScript. The whole rest of the Internet might not have been that careful, though.


Pardon my SEO: Google uses both heuristics and partial execution of Javascript these days. Linking to things only through JS is not a good method to prevent Googlebot from stumbling upon them. I only mention this because a lot of people I know think that apparently Google's colony of well-paid supergeniuses has not written anything since like 2004.


No, this is a brand new site, on it's first index through Google. I'm very confident that they went through the JS. Nobody else had any link to the site at all yet. Not really on topic, here, but the parents comment inspired me to share.


I wish he'd come up with some rules for fighting his own suck. I mean, he hasn't witten anything really good since Glengarry Glen Ross.


Well, there's Ronin.

He also does a great deal of uncredited rewriting.


I liked Edmond! Had some great performances too.


Likewise, I find the dialogue in many of his films really stilted...


Constantly mentioning how you're using a tiling wm is the new constantly mentioning you don't have a TV.


But you just did the same, if you didn't know xmonad you wouldn't know of the 1px red border either! ;)


Ah, the Rubyists are here.


Potential reason? It's a bloody foregone conclusion.


Yeah, but the users of the dominant smartphone demands native apps, because that's what they're used to. No matter how fancy you make your webapp, it's gonna be laggy over a slow connection, and the users will move on to some similar service that offers a native app.


Obviously, you're not a stoner.


Some foodstuffs company whose name I've forgotten tried to introduce yellow ketchup in my area a couple of years ago, but they failed pretty badly. I bought a bottle, and while it tasted just like the the red stuff, it just didn't look right. My 5 year old niece just flat out refused to eat it.


Yeah, and remember the green (and purple) Heinz sales? They didn't last long.

At the cost of duplicating my other comment, it fits here perfectly:

I hate to cry conspiracy theory, but I really do think that American culture in particular has been groomed to think and eat this way by food suppliers. When you can color / bleach something, you can hide flaws.


"I hate to cry conspiracy theory, but I really do think that American culture in particular has been groomed to think and eat this way by food suppliers."

I tend to consider conspiracy theories a last resort. It is not that they are never true, just that reaching for them first is a mental crutch. In this case, I would suggest that given the importance of food, one would rather expect evolutionary considerations to dominate how we feel about food colorations. It may be true that making food "look good" can be used to hide flaws, but I seriously doubt the concept of "looking good" comes from training. I would imagine it mostly comes from genes and common-sense-type-training.

(I assert this without proof, which is why I mentioned my conspiracy-theory metric. My point is that I don't see a need for the conspiracy theory choice here.)


Yeah, I generally agree. And the evolutionary standpoint makes sense, and is the logical counter to this. My main focus there isn't that we equate the two, it's that there's such a strong connection. At least, as far as I can see. It could've grown from "that sells better, what if we do this", but it's still kinda strange, and I wonder if it's at least partly intentional.

'Tis just speculation, though. There are plenty of weird / weirder things in the world.


As probably one of very few HN readers to have made my own ketchup (all you need is time, a kettle, and a farmstand, preferably selling seconds), I can say that dark red is your basic ketchup color if you start with red tomatoes. Purple sounds like heirloom, and at farmers market prices you'd be approaching the price per volume of very good wine.


I'm not sure you'd ever get purple ketchup even with purple tomatoes. Usually the purple pigments in food disappear after heating them. Do you think that'd be any different in tomatoes?


I think it depends on the particular kind of pigment. Purple berries typically stay purple when cooked, which is why blackberry pie is still purple, and eggplants stay purple also. Beets turn red, though, since the purple pigment degrades while the red one doesn't.

Not sure where purple tomatoes would fall. Some googling turns up anthocyanin as the pigment, and Wikipedia says it's water-soluble (so would leach out if the fruit is boiled and the water not retained), and changes color based on pH.


How lame. I'm 35 and I haven't even started working.


I'm 35 too and wondering what I'll do when I grow up;-)


Maybe you and Willie_Dynamite can start a blog about how you retired at Day One.


How? In school?


Where do you get your money, Willie?


The ATM.


This is clearly a sarcastic response. Yet, he received nine points. Why? I thought humor was not allowed? I am trying to flame. I am asking seriously.


To be honest, I'm more fed up with the constant handwringing about them over here. I've never even heard of them outside of here, and I've never seen them in my search results.


I see them in results a few times a day. Quantcast has them as number 167: http://www.quantcast.com/mahalo.com


Of course it's hype. It's not like they're hand-cranking html over there.


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