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Time Warner Cable is not part of Time Warner, so they're not consolidating service providers. AT&T just wants some content production companies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Time_W...

It seems like sports is the last frontier that's keeping traditional linear TV alive. Nobody wants to stream the game tomorrow; the outcome is already known which makes it unexciting to watch. Time Warner has plenty of exclusive sports deals, which gives AT&T leverage over their competition that also has exclusive sports deals (Comcast is the big one). If anything, this creates some incentive for cross-licensing that didn't exist before, which could in theory be good for end users. (I'll believe it when I see it, though.)

Alternatively, traditional TV still has a lot of money behind it, so it makes sense to keep it alive for as long as possible. If you couldn't buy HBO Now and you like HBO shows, your "only" choice is to buy all the channels you don't watch in order to be able to watch HBO. That would be good for both the cable company, and those other channels nobody wants. If a cable company controls HBO again, I think we can see where this is all headed.

Personally, I don't think AT&T can really afford this acquisition, so it might be the beginning of the end for them. If I were AT&T I would spin off everything that wasn't my spectrum licenses, and have a handful of employees raking in pure profit without having to deal with the pesky business of building infrastructure, producing television, billing customers, etc. Kind of like all the companies that own airplanes and lease them to the airlines, or I suppose DeBeers and diamond mines.



Sports is keeping traditional TV alive somewhat, but there are ways to stream sports online without a traditional cable / sat subscription, such as Sling.TV


Well, to stream some sports online.

Sling.TV has problems with licensing agreements where they can't show certain "in market" games, for instance. (There's other, subtler licensing problems too.)

The way that sports got split between the major networks and exclusivity agreements means that their cabal is essentially impossible to entirely replace via a streaming service for any kind of reasonable price even though I can sometimes get the product for free over the air.

Media licensing is a shitshow. Honestly, at this point, I'm for extending the situations under which a compulsory license is granted, setting up a fixed fee, and just letting people have at it.

We need a new model. Copyright as currently implemented is non-functional.


Copyright is totally functional. What you are really saying is you want cheaper sports and the people who don't give you what you want are dicks. It's a mistake a lot of people make.


> Copyright is totally functional.

As just one instance of the copyright system breaking down, the DMCA has seriously stifled artists and led to massive censorship of controversial or critical material by vested interests and malicious actors. There are hundreds or thousands of articles on DMCA notices being used as restraint on legal speech or by people stealing the capitalization of content rather than copyright enforcement mechanism.

"Totally functional."


> Nobody wants to stream the game tomorrow; the outcome is already known which makes it unexciting to watch.

Startup idea: neural-network-based filter for social media applications to hide any discussion of the results of a particular game until after you watch it. Bonus if it can also hide movie spoilers.


> Startup idea: neural-network-based filter for social media applications to hide any discussion of the results of a particular game until after you watch it. Bonus if it can also hide movie spoilers.

Fuck no. Last thing you want is nation-states hacking that and delivering censorship straight to your mind or "Funny how this ballot has one candidate only".

People could even intentionally inflict this on themselves, such as "blocking" a person after a bad breakup so you can't see them or hear their names when they come up in conversation - I hear there might be a Black Mirror episode that touches on this (I'm yet to watch any of them).

Edit: Apologies for my off-topic rant: I read "neural-network-based filter" as "neural filter". I'll leave my comment as a monument to my derpery.


It's not just the spoilers, but the fact that you know the game is over that ruins the fun for a lot of people.


Agreed; I've experienced that as well.

I ended up introspecting on the reasons for that, realized that every single one of them applied equally well to watching it live, and as a result stopped watching entirely.


"Nobody wants to stream the game tomorrow" This assumes the sports you like and teams you watch are in your country. This may often (usually?) be true but sometimes isn't. Some sports make it impossible to watch live - F1 racing changes countries for each race for example. Who wants to get up at 3am when they have work the next day. I'd watch more sport if streaming was possible.


But you wouldn't switch cable companies or buy content you don't want to watch.

There is no technical reason preventing anyone from streaming/recording sporting events. It's easy.


Unless you don't have cable - which I don't. If people didn't buy content they don't want it would drastically change things in terms of how much money sports content was worth. It would be an interesting scenario to see play out.


At least in my market, you get TV for free with the Internet, or rather, you can't buy Internet access unless you also pay for TV.

And don't say there's no competition, because I could totally in theory get 3Mbps DSL for the same price as 300Mbps cable.


>don't say there's no competition, because I could ...get 3Mbps DSL for the same price as 300Mbps cable.

1/10th the speed is proof of competition? Poe's Law strikes again!


That's 1/100th, and the word "totally" in my comment indicates sarcasm.


You don't get tv with internet in my region and I also can't get fibre. Slow DSL is all I can get.


F1 is timed for British viewers. I used to watch the events live over the web. No commercials and no delays. They almost invariably started at 5am on Saturday (Pacific time) for practice. I would post things on Twitter in #F1 before US viewers even saw the video due to network video delay of about 7 seconds. ;)


> Time Warner Cable is not part of Time Warner, so they're not consolidating service providers. AT&T just wants some content production companies.

That might be what they say, but I think it's to compete with Google. While Google may have given up on further fiber rollout after the existing ones, Google still plans to continue to expand and compete with AT&T and other broadband providers but as a wireless provider. Google Fi is just the start. When they bought up Motorola they ended making a better phone themselves (the Pixel). They're using Sprint and T-Mobile for Google Fi now, but plan to become a better wireless data provider.

Of course, it remains to be seen whether these plans will work.


>That might be what they say, but I think it's to compete with Google.

That's not how ownership works. It's not "what they say". Either they own the company or they don't...


Yeah isn't Time Warner Cable now merged with Charter to form what's now referred to simply as Spectrum?


Read my response- I wasn't disputing ownership, nor was I disputing the Time Warner.


I should have only quoted "AT&T just wants some content production companies" because the rest seems to have confused you. I wasn't disputing ownership.


Please explain to me how competing with Google's broadband operation fits into all of this, then.


I think what they were trying to say is that AT&T is buying up Time Warner Cable/Spectrum to own more of the broadband and cellular service markets, such that they can better compete with Google, now offering broadband and Google Fi data service over Sprint and T-Mobile's cellular networks.


AT&T already has a wireline ISP, U-Verse.

Google does not produce any TV channels, as far as I know.

AT&T is buying Time Warner because Comcast bought NBC/Universal. I'm pretty sure it's as simple as that.


AT&T is NOT buying Time Warner Cable/Spectrum.




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