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Mandela or Hitler are don't seem particularly anti-American.

"The forms of government have always been different. But this cannot be a reason for hostility between different nations, as long as one form of government does not try to interfere with another, outside of its naturally ordained sphere." http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p389_Hitler.html



I suppose I didn't pick the best examples. Though Mandela was a critic of the US in later years regarding Iraq / Israel, and Hitler's sentiment on America seems to be complex: a combination of not taking america too seriously and not desiring conflict too early.

But I don't think that changes my original point, which is that all dictators can be seen as serving their people, depending on how you define "their people".


I don't disagree, but the comment you replied to was about the direct correlation between "the amount of anti-American rhetoric" and "how much they screw their country over" so the fact that you choose as example dictators which were not very high in the anti-American rhetoric axis kind of supports his case.


True. I suppose better picks would have been leaders of Russia, Egypt, Pakistan, Iran, etc. going off of http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/15/which-countr...

In all those cases they're helping some group in their country, even if its the political elite.




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