That’s how we are going to end up with standing only places and paying for the t...

tptacek · on July 22, 2019

I think the subtext is that flights aren't supposed to cost what cheap economy flights cost; they should be substantially more expensive. So you can "unaccept" the discomfort by paying for them what they should cost.

Is how I read the previous comment.

AmericanChopper · on July 22, 2019

I can get a seat on a flight that will take me to the opposite side of the world in less than a day for ~$600. That’s not unacceptable, that’s amazing. Cheap and fast international travel has to be somewhere on the list of most revolutionary post-industrialisation innovations.

rglullis · on July 22, 2019

Varig was an airline in Brazil that was amazingly nice. Even economy seats got real blankets and actual silverware for dinner.

You'd love it, if it were not for the fact that they went bankrupt in the 90s when the first low-cost carrier entered the Brazilian market.

tinus_hn · on July 22, 2019

There are plenty of carriers (some might even say all of them) today without standing places where you don’t have to pay for using the toilets and many of them are profitable. You don’t need to accept ridiculous things for that. It’s just that every time, one of them will try to squeeze just a few more cents out of you and if the public allows them to do that, all the others will jump at the opportunity.

rglullis · on July 22, 2019

> many of them are profitable

Until they aren't, and either they need to find way to cut costs or extract more value per-passenger.

> You don’t need to accept ridiculous things for that.

Then don't? What's stopping you from not flying with low-cost carriers?

I already avoid easyjet/ryanair, even if the tickets from some company like KLM/Aegean costs more than double.