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> people drive off with the nozzle still in their car surprisingly often

I did this in the late 80s. The handle ripped off and was not magnetically attached. However, gas did not spill from the hose.

I drove back to the station and handed it to the attendant sheepishly. He said thanks.



The breakaways on the dispensers I worked with in the early 90's had shear pins and were mechanical. We lost 1 or 2 a year at our station in rural Ohio.


I’m happy to report that this may be fixed going forward. Tesla and I think most EV’s will not let you in drive while plugged in.


Funny story, I broke a plug while undoing it (there was some jank), and it refused to let me go faster than ~5mph. I needed the service station to remove the adapter.


That sounds like a dangerous design flaw. What does “some jank” mean?


I fear any car that can refuse to let me drive. There's no way they couldn't trigger that remotely in an individualized way.


Any vehicle with Onstar has this as an intentional feature. The feature was introduced in 2009.

Electronic ignition interlocks have been common on most vehicles over the past 20 years too... the only reason you can't remotely prevent most other cars from starting is simply software.

https://www.toyota.com/connected-services/remoteconnect/

https://owner.ford.com/fordpass/fordpass-sync-connect.html

https://www.nissanusa.com/connect/features-apps.html

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/blue-link

etc...

Since all the hardware exists, all you have to do is find an exploit: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-hig...


Thanks for helping raise awareness about these too. It’s a scary world out there when the devices people rely on can work against them on the whim of another.


Imagine a $5000 ransom popping up in your HUD or your car will automatically drive off a bridge.

Doors and windows are locked and you have 120 seconds.


As long as it is not brake by wire you are fine for ransoms if you are stationary.

I am quite scared of internet connected cars that can steer the wheel automatically though. That is madness.


Thats not a good plan - most people wont be able to transfer $5000 in 120 seconds just because it is not sitting in the cureen t account tied to your card.


It will use hacked Equifax credit reports to generate an amount that you are most likely to have with 95% confidence.

Secondly, Tesla owners tend to be more affluent. Imagine a cyberpunk world where ransomware attacks are a fact of life: buy cheap cars with reasonable security and minimise your total cost of ownership. Heh.


you can do small installments and make it seem normal


You choose "PAY", put in your bank account PIN, the car drives off the bridge anyway and the virus erases itself from the car.


It would be much better for future business to have stories circulating from people who were safe after paying the ransom.


It is very likely that whatever you are driving today, if it was manufactured in the past two decades in Europe, North America, Brazil, Korea, or Japan, will not let you shift into Drive (automatic) without depressing the brake pedal.


And there's also universally an override to that interlock and the manual tells you exactly where it is. Usually you just pop off a little cover on the gear shift and depress a mechanical button under that cover with the key to the car or any thin enough piece of metal long enough to reach. If Tesla doesn't have something equivalent for charging cables that can be used by the owner then that's a flaw with Tesla. There's a reason why everyone else has an override.


Closes the market to external power banks. Perhaps add a bit to detect the type of power supply.


I drove off with nozzle once because it was my first time filling my new German car, which has the port on the right, which I wasn't used to.


Thanks is an amazing response to this


How far did you get from the station before you realized it and turned back?


Not the OP but the cashier at the Wendy’s drive-through pointed it out to the driver when I was a passenger. I think the passengers laughter could be measured in litre of tears.


About 1/2 a kilometer. I stopped the car, removed the handle, and drove back to the gas station.

The attendant had been outside, so he saw it happen. In fact he had pumped the gas (this was not self-serve).

And when I came back, holding the nozzle in my hand, he was dumbfounded.




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