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Good luck trying to run a proper GNU/Linux on those Android devices.

Actually tbere are plenty of other options for embedded.

As for the server room, UNIX was already the winner there anyway, since the 1990's.



AOSP with the more modern kernels and less vendor garbage in giant forks will help with that.

Unix was king in the 80s, maybe early 90s for anyone doing terminals, banks, government and universities were all ok the big iron train. But when nt3.1 and 3.5 came out, if you were a business not looking into it, you felt like you were behind the times. We had DEC and iris at our house, so weren't in a good position to switch, but it wasn't long before the change happened.


I might be a NT fan, yet I am the first to acknowledge NT never had a big market share on the server room.

The only places where NT managed to succeed on server room have been Microsoft shops, or places where .NET was adopted as the main development stack.

Workstations is another matter.

In the 80's many banks were either on mainframes/micros, or using stuff like Novel Netware.


> The only places where NT managed to succeed on server room have been Microsoft shops, or places where .NET was adopted as the main development stack.

.NET came out well after NT was replaced with windows 2000 (unless you claim that 2000, and thus XP and later windows OSes were also NT)

> In the 80's many banks were either on mainframes/micros, or using stuff like Novel Netware.

In my experience in the late 90s NT crushed Netware. It rode the wave of computerisation of SMEs and gained massive amounts of users (with desktop often being 3.11 onwards rather than NT).


.NET came in 2001, to be more precisely yes.

Until then it was all about ASP, Outlook, and SMB shares, nothing else.

All big stuff was on UNIX.

Again, when talking about the server room.

From 1999 to 2003, I was doing project delivery across Aix, Solaris, HP-UX, Windows NT/2000, so I might have an idea of how our customer based actually had their server rooms configured.

Likewise the university campus was wired to DG/UX, Solaris, eventually Red-Hat came into the picture as DG/UX server died.

Computer labs desktops were a mixture Windows 9X, NT, Mac and some lucky professors had a couple of NeXT Cubes, which they eventually replaced by Red-Hat (before Apple's aquisition).

So to each their own 1990's anecdote.


> Good luck trying to run a proper GNU/Linux on those Android devices.

The Termux App [https://termux.dev/en/] provides a full linux terminal with zsh, emacs, and apt based package manager. I've been using it in lieu of creating full apks for personal projects -- much easier to spin up a database and local webserver via ssh on my phone than to build a proper app package.

I find it fits most of my linux on the go needs; for example I can pull up a node REPL and quickly test code on my phone, or curl a API endpoint


Does that actually use the underlying system or is it just a virtual thing though? It calls itself an emulator after all. Windows can run an emulated Legend of Zelda ROM but that doesn't make it a NES.


I bet it wasn't installed from Play Store, nor you are using one of the latest versions.


>Good luck trying to run a proper GNU/Linux on those Android devices.

How is toybox not good enough to replace the GNU coreutils for a phone? Or what GNU software are you talking about that someone would even want to run on a phone?


ISO C and ISO C++ isn't Linux.

To be a proper replacement, anything in GNU/Linux must be available.




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