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I've seen someone say along the lines of "we need more old rich men to sponsor passion art projects"


Yes, sponsor. But not necessarily be involved in any of the decision making.


Well, I don't know. At the end of films they say 10000 jobs were created making a film or some such, so.. even if it's not the best, people were paid.

Let the rich enjoy even the decision making, as long as everyone knows the score when taking the job, why not? And does the camera or grip or other such professional, need to be plot-level motivated to do their job with skill, grace, pride, and.. with paycheque in hand?

No one says anyone need watch it, so I think it's all good.


> does the camera or grip or other such professional, need to be plot-level motivated to do their job with skill, grace, pride, and.. with paycheque in hand?

I've never been involved in films, but from my own experience, the answer is a strong 'yes' - people want to have faith that the effort they're putting in will lead to something good. It's part of the process that sometimes projects fail, but generally people need to have hope, in order to feel that their work has meaning.

An interesting recent example is the debacle around the development of the game Concord, which is said to have been plagued by toxic positivity[0]. Reading up about this, I understand that people who worked on that came out with a very negative experience, exacerbated by the disastrous launch.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41608637


> I've never been involved in films, but from my own experience, the answer is a strong 'yes'

I worked in film visual effects for a decade and the answer is a strong 'no.'

In my case, we were in it for the enjoyment of the work and the craft. We didn't write the scripts, and the quality of the film wasn't our job. We were hired to make the best effects we could and if we delivered quality, we were happy. I'm sure a similar attitude works in other aspects of film (or any large collective enterprise, really).


You missed the prior sentence where I stipulated "as long as everyone knows the score when taking the job"

If you know it's a rich person's pet project, and they will be creatively involved, if you are informed, you have choice.

And thus my prior post stands as valid.

I am fully aware people often care about their output, but there are many who don't, or just want work. Up-post was saying the rich shouldn't be allowed to have such projects, my response indicates conditions where it is reasonable, and there is no harm to actors/crew.


> At the end of films they say 10000 jobs were created making a film or some such, so.. even if it's not the best, people were paid.

Fun fact: More people worked on the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise than there were pirates in the Caribbean.




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