It's like the /s sign. Can some people not, for themselves, realize that this text is meant as a more or less a joke ? And before you ask, yeah, I am aware some of the people are on the spectrum, but still...
Yes, it does need to be said. Many people will read this article and miss the satire, which is, in part, the intent of sophisticated satire. The point is that it is outlandish and foolish and ridiculous and yet still resembles some serious discourse that real people engage in. So much so that some onlookers can't tell the difference. That proves the satirist's thesis: the real world is full of ridiculous people making ridiculous arguments and they can't even see themselves or their arguments for what they are.
I know real life people who write essays with claims as outlandish as "software engineering is an ableist field" and are dead serious. But that assertion belongs just as well in a satire piece. It can be very hard to tell if you don't have prior context for the author.
Humor died few years ago after series of increasingly more improbable events happening. "USA voted pedophile that bankrupted 3 casinos into second term" was stuff out of Onion decade ago, so some researcher walking into job interview with ChatGPT doesn't even move a needle on satire scale.
When I started reading it I thought for far too long that this person is actually stupi^H^H^H^H^H serious. So writing that it is satire is useful for people that do not read enough of the text, and just jump into the comments :) Also, this type of behavior has little to do with the neurodivergent spectrum, if anything it touches personality types, maybe maybe some trauma or addiction, unlikely to be caused by anything in the affective space (episodes would be too short) or psychosis space.
same, i didn't catch the satire and eventually got tired of the stupidity. the thing is, a lot of people around me are using AI like the person in the story. and they are entirely serious. they are not scientists but they could be writing this article and actually mean it.
Sadly I have to admit I read it and didn't know it was satire. The way they described using LLMs to to achieve research results sounded plausible enough to me. As an attorney, I also fear a race to the bottom where legal research becomes simply editing the work of AI. Also, the idea of being subject to a test with little relationship to professional practice reminds me of the bar exam; which requires intimate knowledge of almost all areas of the law despite the fact that practicing attorneys generally are only familiar with their specializations (eg, it would be unwise to retain a civil rights attorney to represent you for even a traffic violation); and requires all the knowledge to be memorized, even though it would be unthinkable (and most likely malpractice) for any attorney to practice relying solely on memory.
I also suspect that there are attorneys out there who are starting to use LLMs to generate legal work with a method similar to what the author described (generate prompt, revise minimally). Lawyers are taught to write a certain way which LLMs mirror flawlessly; the surest way to identify LLM generated legal writing is if it happens to hallucinate citations. I used to regularly find hallucinated citations, and occasionally strange reasoning, but both have largely vanished as the LLMS improve.
I think sometimes it is but only if the humor relies on a tone.
When it’s satire I think the main blocker of recognition is if you have an emotional reaction first.
As an example, if you are a diehard AI influencer or something you might miss the joke entirely because of the severity of your initial negative reaction.
Just my two cents. Glad I could contribute to completely beating the humor out of this post :)
1) No it does not have to be said. Nobody is forcing anyone to explain anything.
2) I think that the best satire is fair, and should read to the targets as real commentary. When someone takes your satire seriously, it means that you have successfully commented on reality. Is that inverse Poe's Law?
Otherwise you're just putting words in your enemies' mouths that they would not ever say. I think people do this because they don't have the strength of their own convictions, and wouldn't be able to stand people not getting their joke (and worse, confusing them for extreme believers in something that they disdain.)
To them I would suggest that one doesn't try to make arguments through satire, one rather demonstrate arguments through satire. If you need to make your argument with satire, you actually don't have an argument. Satire without a solid underpinning argument is just propaganda.
It does, but unfortunately, this is in-crowd communication -- it's too high brow to hit anyone that needs to read it. But I enjoyed it, and I'm sure it was cathartic to write
As someone on the spectrum, I can assure you that being on the spectrum is not an obstacle for understanding this kind of humor.
In fact, is the neurotypicals who struggle getting it because they rely on nonverbal cues (like a sarcastic tone of voice), which is missing in text, to detect humor.
Deadpan, dry humor is generally more amenable to the autistic mind, because it doesn't have what we consider noise.
If someone needs a laugh track to tell that something is a joke, then either it's a bad joke that wouldn't be made any better with a laugh track, or the problem exists between keyboard and chair.
Problem is that the Internet is too big that there actually could be someone writing this as a serious blog post. For this one it was quite obvious at some point, but when only reading the first few paragraphs I am very certain that there could be someone out there meaning it serious (sadly).
It is just a joke was succesfully used as a goto excuse foe years. Usually when people actually have more of extreme stance, test waters and find that "not yet".
And since it was succesfull, many people dont want to play that game anymore or simply dont believe it anymore.
As often happens with satire, you could read it as satirizing the idea that people should entirely rely on their own knowledge and memory, without AI assistance. The response to the article depends heavily upon one’s perspective on the subject.
Yes. Humor is very hard to grasp via text, especially sarcastic humor, because in person we use voice and body language to signal that something is meant as a joke.
While it is true humor is hard to grasp in text, it has been done that way for millenia in books, and it continued to work as it should. Actually, the fact that it is sometimes misunderstood as non-humor is for the better.
I mean this sincerely, rather than as dismissal: humor is not very hard to grasp in text for people who are fully literate and fluent in the language being used.
The problem we face is that a lot of people are in deep denial about their level of functional literacy.
It's reddit. The average intelligence of reddit users has been progressing downwards since 2010 or so with major drops in 2016 and 2020. Most users are clueless teenagers who haven't read a book in full throughout their lives.
Yes, but it's a thin line, and I contend that this is over that line.
If you satarise Nazis and some Nazis can't tell that you're making fun of them, that's good satire. If you write a peice that reads like any other peice of Nazi literature, that's not understanding what satire is.
Applying for a position is a much lower bar than having any chance of landing the position.
I’ve interviewed someone for a programming position. The guy practically nailed the standard quiz (done at leisure before the interview), but was unable to explain why he answered what he answered. When we got to reviewing a little program (compare two strings, see if the distribution of letters is the same), he could not walk me through it. He was applying for a programming position, and could not explain his "own" impressively correct programming answers.
Well at least postdocs have a PhD, that they had to defend in front of a chalk board I presume. Still, sometimes, frauds do slip through.
You're projecting your experience in IT on academia, and I can't emphasize strongly enough how far off you are. Which was why this piece was written: that reality is already here in software engineering. The entire point is: if this seems absurd in the context of the piece, why would you accept this anywhere else?
In any case, this satire wasn't written from the point of view of a fraud. And if it doesn't seem outright absurd to you, you need to get a reality check.
Hold on, rational humans downvoted this? Because you can't discern which is satirical and you have no sense of humor?
I'll give you the same treatment I give cringe lords in online first-person shooters: take a shower.