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As a power user, the only time I care about URL's is when copy-pasting and when developing web apps.

I like to explicitly know what I'm copy pasting.

It offends my personal sensibilities to make websites with ugly links.

Other than that ... I don't know. I can't decide how I feel about this, but I can't help but think that I really don't care about the URL being accessible. Not like I ever do anything with it.



And that has got to be the most irritating thing about Google these days, they mangle the URLs in their search results to the point where I can't get a clean URL sometimes, at least not without some real work.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

Instead of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_resource_locator

Is really irritating.



This is one of the cases where a userscript or filter proxy is really useful.

There's some interesting cookie-looking values in those URL parameters too, not sure if there's anything privacy-critical in them but it's still a bit of a concern.


> the only time I care about URL's is when copy-pasting

This is like saying the only time I care about electricity is when I need to power something. The fact that there's a universal textual way to refer to and link everything – like via copy and paste – is precisely why the web is so powerful.


More like "the only time I care about electricity is when taking a battery from one device and putting it in another".

If there was a way to tell Chrome "Share this website on Skype to this person" or "Send this to this-or-that IRC channel" I would never care about the URL. The only reason I interact with it is because I want to share the page with someone specific (rather than using a spamming/sharing widget).

But I never manipulate the URL directly, or care about its specific parts.

Hell, if there was a keyboard shortcut for "put reference to current page on copypaste stack" I'd never click the URL at all.


I guess, but that seems far, far more ugly than the elegance of copy paste. Copy-paste doesn't require special implementation, or inter-app compatibility, or anything special or extra.

Why are moving away from powerful and flexible systems that allow us to consume and produce? Why is the trend so constantly towards sealed, black-box, consumption exclusive habits? It makes me so sad to see.


* Dev tools get better and better, giving you better insights into other peoples websites than ever before. One-click to make a minified JS file readable? Awesome!

* Web apps get more complex, giving you the ability to work & create on the web, Google docs let you literally stop mid-sentence, switch the device and keep writing your essay on the go

* Tumblr, wikipedia, twitter, - all relatively recent additions to the web and definitely not "consumption exclusive"

I'm not sure where your "consumption exclusive" comes from. I'd call it just "inclusive". The web tries to be for everyone, and that includes people who couldn't care less about a 20 character hex id when they want to write up their great concept for developing rural areas in Rumania. Sure, you will always have more consumers than producers on the grand scale of things. But I'm failing to see any reason to see recent trends as anything close to what you describe.


if there was a keyboard shortcut for "put reference to current page on copypaste stack" I'd never click the URL at all

C-l (lower case L) to select the URL and then C-c to copy is one way to do this on many systems without without clicking anything.


FWIW, commands like the ones you mentioned used to be possible with the ubiquity extension for firefox. Good times.


Well, just to add a counter-opinion, I find myself often manipulating URLs directly, if only to truncate them.


If there was a way to tell Chrome "Share this website on Skype to this person" or "Send this to this-or-that IRC channel" I would never care about the URL.

Yes, android's intent system is neat. But after years of experience with it, it's sadly not a pancea.


Here are some use cases I thought of:

go to the top level domain directly instead of hunting and hoping that they have a link there

going up several directories on an ftp site

go from reddit.com/r/starcraft to reddit.com/r/nba

go from a foo.github.io/bar docs page to github.com/foo/bar instead of hunting, and hoping, for a link

increment the page number on a blog by several instead of clicking next repeatedly

prepend http://www.google.com/url?q= to NYTimes urls to avoid paywall

add ?limit=100 to see more comments on reddit comment page

going to a new topic on wikipedia


Yup. As well as basic stuff such as, "wow, I just found myself on a cool page after clicking through a few links. What website is this?"

This change was akin to Microsoft removing the Start menu.

And it highlights the importance of open source software.

And demonstrates how greed (seriously, how much MORE money and success does google need at this point) betrays quality.

Keep using duckduckgo, everyone!


I always fix Amazon product page URLs before sending them to others. It's incredible how much useless stuff they put in those URLs. I don't want peoples' screens to fill up with a whole paragraph full of garbage.


Not like I ever do anything with it.

Well that's nice, but some of us still have (e.g.) parents to help over the phone. Not to mention the address/URL/etc. field is an important part of computer literacy.


This change (just like the hiding the scheme part) affects everyone who copies links, which is something that almost everyone using the Internet has done at some point. It's just an extra click, but an unnecessary one.


What about when you buy something online or log in to a web site?

Do you not check the url before you give out your credit card details and website passwords?


From the article it sounds like Chrome is replacing the URL (which is difficult for humans to parse) with an "origin chip" that contains just the domain name. This improves on the use case you point out.


It's actually worse in some ways. The example I'm thinking of is Google Docs, which seems to be a very effective vector for phishing.

With this change, all you'd see is "google.com" which totally seems legit for providing your username and password, without the additional form URL.


If we assume that most users do not know what a URL is then why can we assume that the information handed to them by an origin chip is any more useful to them?


Same reason as some browsers started to grey out parts of the hostname - if the only thing a user sees is "bankofamreica.com" or "bankofamerica.com.foroigs.io" they have a better chance of catching the thing that's wrong. Noise/information ratio etc..




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