I am the author of https://Nestful.app (there's some overlap, but we do not seem to compete). I have built it after being through the same ordeal, and have come to the conclusion that the tool is not the main hurdle, especially at the level of Trello or Asana, which are very high quality tools.
The lack of productivity comes from the methodology those tools implement. Their methodologies contributed a whole lot but by now we are used to that contribution, and so we must advance it.
Nestful implements a methodology I call "spontaneous productivity". In which there is no planning. Nestful will tell you what is the next thing you need to do, and that is it. Currently you have to know the methodology very well and "do it by hand", but I am very close for a smooth UX.
Either way, my point is that improving upon Trello or Asana is like honing a sharp sword. At some point, we need to switch to a gun.
Like others have said, your comment here is very interesting and makes me want to learn more, but your (pleasantly minimal) homepage has no more information.
Amplenote has a unique "idea/concept" they're designing for, and they spell it out in a series of very interesting blog posts [1]. I don't practice their "idea funnel" concept but their blog post made me interested enough to eventually subscribe to their service.
It would be really cool to see a similar post for Nestful.
for perspective, i built a personal crm that told you who to engage next (via a dynamic contact list powered by interaction data streams). it failed[0] because this was not actually the biggest pain point of sales people (folks most likely to use and pay for such a tool), and it was too important a decision point for users to rely on it solely.
a smart tool, it turns out, isn't all that useful, even though it has wow factor. it may even be enough of a wow to be an effective marketing tool, but an effective marketing tool is not an effective productivity tool.
[0]: we found more success as a general sales team dashboard based on the underlying realtime data
Thanks for your feedback. Your methodology of "spontaneous productivity" is pretty interesting to me. Will take some time to check out your app. BTW, love your minimalist landing page.
I am positive it can be implement in a business oriented app to the same extent I am trying to implement it in a personal environment. And if it doesn't fit -- surely there are other methodologies that both advance the field and fit the product.
After thinking about this, I would absolutely love an up-front opinionated "this is what you need to work on next" UI in all the productivity and management apps I have to use at work.
Since you haven't provided any information besides "Try it, you'll love it", I tried it, and I'm sorry to say our relationship didn't work out. My Notepad++ is more useful. You comment in a thread on a PM tool, and your app seems like a scratchpad. For sure it fill find its users, but it's a far cry from Upbase and similar projects.
Not yet, but fairly easy to explain, in its current state. Nestful is a todo list app that can display items in Kanban or List view, and in which each item is also a board itself (hence the product name). That is it (for now ;))
The lack of productivity comes from the methodology those tools implement. Their methodologies contributed a whole lot but by now we are used to that contribution, and so we must advance it.
Nestful implements a methodology I call "spontaneous productivity". In which there is no planning. Nestful will tell you what is the next thing you need to do, and that is it. Currently you have to know the methodology very well and "do it by hand", but I am very close for a smooth UX.
Either way, my point is that improving upon Trello or Asana is like honing a sharp sword. At some point, we need to switch to a gun.